Object Pascal is not the predecessor to Delphi. By the looks of it you're using the optimal solution to your problem. In the beginning the site was sacred to Mother Earth and was guarded by the terrible serpent Python, who was later killed by Apollo. It started as a nationwide dialup service in 1983. I think Embarcadero is seriously hurting themselves with their bunker mentality. Now I know. Still, took us a year to get our code from Delphi 2007 to XE3. Qt is like VCL and it can be used within VS or without it. Extend the Delphi IDE. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCSD_Pascal. Torque Owner Gary Roberson CJW Enterprises #9. I wish Microsoft would make their C++ environment work like that. Afterwards, Borland extended Turbo Pascal with Apple's agreement and then Turbo Pascal 5.5 was born. It's funny how you can selectively remember the good aspects of a language and forget how much better life has become since you dumped it. [1] http://jugad2.blogspot.in/2010/08/digital-clock-v10-in-3-lin... > Being highly productive has seen single Delphi developers produce software that would otherwise require a team of 5 developers. In my eyes it was a huge winner for Delphi over Visual Studio products, although I never really liked the pascal syntax... Delphi/Pascal and Wolfram mathematica are the two things I point people to when we talk about documentation. The IDE's integration of UI widgets and event-handling procedures was pretty slick too. As a hobbyist the absolute most important thing was seeing my effort actually materialise in front of me and to that end it was amazing. Archived. The main code base is handled by one developer. Some things I have made in Delphi require a LOT of stirng manipulation, which I could have absolutly not have done without the TStrings data structure. However, with no GUI designer and GUI library it is maddening building anything large. Judging just by current job postings, Rails 3ish might be entrenched for a short while too. At least for boring internal enterprise apps within corporations, the new languages/platforms and especially modern program design paradigms with their multiple tiers & supporting libraries, multiple levels of indirection resulting in 30 level deep call stacks, etc results in productivity perhaps 1/4 of what you could achieve with a product like Delphi. Not completely "visual programming" as you say, but I found it a fast and easy tool for making and tweaking the UI. If it is a paid app, you can start getting money with it as soon as it starts to sell. But now I work in Objective C. Xcode is much better IDE (Delphi is 32 bit, and crashes often with big projects). I don't know, but it is an interesting question. Delphi Prism is all about being a full featured .NET development language and "forward compatibility." Delphi was originally developed by Borland as a rapid application development tool for Windows as the successor of Turbo Pascal. Unicode was retrofitted into PHP and then the entire effort was abandoned, so yes, i think anything would be more elegant. The first time I used VB/C++ I thought the IDE had crashed because it took so long to build... More like a 17 year old too lazy to learn proper debugging, but yes - it works and I'm not surprised its got an official name. It is unstable to say the least. And then I discovered Visual Basic (in its DOS and Windows) and I was able to do buttons and forms and tigers.. I see a single job posted on craigslist every 6 months in city with 50 daily job postings. Delphi's object orientation features only class- and interface-based polymorphism. Embarcadero tried to keep up with the evolving C++ standard and on paper they were moderately successful, but if you actually tried to program in a modern style, it all fell down. Why debug when you can trial & error 10 solutions per minute (on a weak box)? Delphi gets you pixel-perfect interfaces that work on a 486 with windows 95 right up to todays windows 8 (there is a version of delphi that would get you 3.1 support as well). The grandparent is a consultant, how many of this niche is hiring consultants? Posted by. When my brother who was in CS and was doing image processing (tumors, edge detection, etc), he did his project in Delphi and I'd hang around, and he'd ask me how to do this or that, since I started programming in it before he did, and it was so easy for him to implement stuff and build the application. This is not to say Delphi is archaic by any means, and those who have used Delphi in the past will probably continue to use Delphi until the end, simply because it is so resilient and future-proof. Borland Pascal 7 (running in MSDOS) had the best IDE I ever had. 2. As a unix programmer, it was great when I "just needed a quick windows GUI" for something. asked Jun 8 '12 at 22:53. Sure, with VC6, you could do More Stuff, and theoretically, it would be Better Stuff. Online material is mainly marketing, no useful blog posts, new frameworks, package managers.. It was an incredible effort. Delphi Prism (later known as Embarcadero Prism) derived from the, This page was last edited on 24 December 2020, at 20:33. It is definitely inspired by Delphi/ObjectPascal. It delivers executables that need no dependencies. Now that time has moved on, I no longer use Delphi at all, and rarely use FreePascal. Delphi has no proper crossplatform support and it's a big minus. The Delphi Technique is a method used to estimate the likelihood and outcome of future events. Or do anything 'cool', like turn up and give a demo on how to implement reactive manifesto complaint software client/server with a few clicks / lines of code. Delphi's compilers generate native code for Microsoft Windows, macOS, iOS, Android and Linux (x64).[4][5][6]. The IDE was fast. And guess what, O n-squared complexity is still a killer when n gets large. It's not so much that Delphi's language capabilities are superior (other than the binding), I think it's that so much of the currently fashionable bloat is more likely to be skipped. Apparently, the guy who did Delphi, got hired at Microsoft. The data aware components were a life saver, and to this day programming in a wide range of languages I am constantly reminded how painful doing things that were simple 20 years ago is. The syntax makes your code look so nice, unlike VB. No VM's, no runtimes, no add-on dll's. Delphi includes an integrated IDE. Now this is just my opinion, and it is shared by many others, but there are even more who would vehemently disagree. Talk about going against the grain. I think part of the question being asked here is "how do these help application development" ? Delphi Forums is a U.S. online service provider and since the mid 1990s has been a community internet forum site. One of the advertisers in the symposium papers was a consultancy whose pitch basically was "so you've been making money from selling a product, but you're getting old and want to retire. It drives a fundamental distaste into my mouth every time I'm hacking an AJAX app to do basic sorting/filtering of a simple result set. No, I think Hejlsberg knew perfectly well that he shouldn't attempt to do "GUI for C++". Lots of compiler bugs and no improvement from release to release. Object Pascal was designed at Apple as their extensions to Pascal while using it as system programming language to develop the first versions of Mac OS. Elegant is in the eye of the beholder I suppose. I recall buying the Delphi IDE way back in the day; possibly when I was still at university, definitely when Borland was still around! I sometimes wonder what Delphi would look like today, had Anders not joined the MS fold. I'm reminded of this rather amusing comment on a forum: "My colleague told me to abandon Delphi, it's obsolete, Silverlight is the future. Things like a ";" at the end of every statment actually makes code more readable to me. I mean, you had to make an installer for your programs with files like VBRUNXXX.DLL and error messages yelling at you, and depending 16bits or 32bits, VB4 or VB6, so ... it's even fuzzy in my head. Microsoft's compiler had nothing visual about it. > the Delphi community developed a python 2.7/3 type schism over UI changes and .NET inclusion and a large portion of the community refused to adopt new releases. share | improve this question | follow | edited Aug 17 '17 at 15:56. I'll keep checking though... Re [1] above: Image of the digital clock gone from the post, sorry. So, this is probably why its still being used. We haven't upgraded our licenses since the versions since XE3 didn't bring anything for us, but if we want to see Delphi survive then perhaps we should be chucking some money Embarcadero's way! It's the libraries and programming language skills that matter. With one recompile, the same app runs on android, ios. 13. I used Delphi for work, then had to convert everything to VB.net when they decided to switch. Actually "Delphi" and C++ Builder are not what makes these products interesting ... it is the VCL library and GUI designer that they ship with that makes them so interesting and productive. For other uses, see Delphi (disambiguation). "Since the code is native, performance is never a problem even with wildly inefficient code.". So maybe that's why it lasted so long. 15.7k 7 7 gold badges 48 48 silver badges 76 76 bronze badges. Compared to them it's not strong on data components that allow you to connect a DB to a UI, you will have to write SQL and code for that. http://screamingduck.com/Article.php?ArticleID=43&Show=ABCE. When I started doing C#, I felt quite at home. Awesome ... appreciate your perspective. Let's assume we're comparing Delphi to Ruby and Python as the modern competitors for the high-productivity, just-get-it-done language. I think this will refresh its community and the Delphi empire would rise again. One of the great things about Delphi and its predecessor Object Pascal were, besides what other HNers have mentioned, was AOT compilation, being memory safe and allowing systems programming at the same time. dealing with Delphi as a product more than programming language hurts the Delphi community. add a comment | 1 Answer Active Oldest Votes. XE6 may have some improvements under Embarcadero's "QPS" (Quality/Performance/Stability) project. mod. One of my most frequently used Windows app is in Delphi. Delphi is the IDE and compiler, Object Pascal is the language (Free Pascal Compiler and GNU Pascal are two other compilers, both exhibit the same quick and safe compilation). After building gui apps in c++/mfc, I tried delphi. The native binaries nature of Delphi has meant there is no such equivalent (that I'm aware of), although I'm considering leveraging Nuget's packaging format and tools for BPLs. Roadmaps. Yet, there are differences that may be decisive for their relative applicability for different problems. Wirth knows how to design efficient languages and systems, and his students (most of the founders of Oberon microsystems, the developers of BlackBox, were such) carry on the tradition. The summary for me is that Delphi was more productive and way better designed than VB with the performance of C. I never understood why it didn't have a broader following. I wish it was more solid or that Embarcadero would just get smart and open source the whole thing so it actually would have a chance. , Microsoft's enhanced version of JavaScript, which has been in the news somewhat lately. The business people often want it too.). I think the simplicity of the grammar may contribute some, but probably very little. Just like COBOL devs were in serious demand during the "millennium crisis", Java 1.2 devs will be in demand the next time we have some sort of fundamental upheaval. go from 1 to 2 phone numbers per customer) : 3) the RPC/REST/... interface to the second tier, 4) any and all frontend code interacting with this data. I remember how you only had to dealt with pointers when you used Windows API. In delphi, by contrast, you change the backend, and that's it. I prefer Delphi 6. If i were his wife, and he rejected the offer, I would be. No shortcuts are shown in hints (debugger step over/into...). I'm eyeing Rust. Lazarus as being FPC + libraries is great, but the IDE is still really bad in my opinion. Seems all the effort to make it cross platform (kylix) or match up with the .net component models cluttered up the early clarity of implementation. Based on Object Pascal, . It was sweet. 2.4k members in the delphi community. It’s used for building everything from mobile to web and desktop applications, and right now (at least according to TIOBE) it’s in … Lack of built-in multicast delegates for event handlers. Interface implementations can be delegated to fields or properties of classes. For future large scale projects. You can create you pure business logic as code compatible between Delphi native and Delphi Prism, but all the GUI and IO code (anything that makes use of the VCL or RTL) will be specialized. I've also read off and on that Delphi (and other Borland products) were/are big in Germany and other European countries. I found it so too. I have periodically tried out more recent version of delphi or lazurus http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/ and they don't seem to be nearly as elegant as the early versions. PeopleSoft was hostilely acquired by Oracle in 2005, after which, despite Oracle trying to kill it for years (and merge the Peoplesoft product into Fusion), it still exists. The Microsoft equivalent to VCL is MFC, but I don't think that's a very current skill to have. I asked someone working in the museum'offices and she informed me there is a general instruction from the Ministry of Culture to rope off the site in case of heavy rains or a strong earthquake, just to be on the safe side. During the Windows 95 preview stage they added code to the app launcher that would detect binaries compiled with Borland products and generate bogus errors. Plus, by the late '90s there were a ton of 3rd party component libraries that nailed just about every GUI interaction an average program might need. It's free to sign up and bid on jobs. (Many boring corporate apps are now web-based, and not just because the developers want that. Objects are actually references to the objects (as in Java), which Delphi implicitly de-references, so there is usually no need to manually allocate memory for pointers to objects or use similar techniques that some other languages need. For all the bad things I've said about it ... it is nice. 5. Message handlers are implemented by tagging a method of a class with the integer constant of the message to handle. - Kevin Kelly [1]. The Delphi products all ship with a run-time library (RTL) and a Visual Component Library (VCL), including most of its source code. It was wonderful though, and GUIs were so easy. But in an afternoon with VB6, I could bang out a good first prototype for SO many projects that in many cases, ended up being "good enough" that we never needed to go back and re-do it "properly" in VC6. My currently active projects are C, Node.js, and Browser Javascript. This is why codebases that are based on Delphi somehow never get ported away from it. Lots of people learned C using K&R's book - I learned C/C++ from reading Borland's manuals. PHP currently supports unicode in the same way as lua or C - every string is a binary string. I had already programmed in BASIC as a child and it was great, for a kid like me who didn't have Internet access and named text files to .COM and .EXE in the hope they would do something, this was awesome. I look at tools for DOM manipulation right now - and I look at what people dream of doing with the DOM, especially with apps. Delphi's competitive with other desktop and mobile development platforms, even at what they're charging for it. Still, the Delphi method can be used most successfully in forecasting single scalar indicators. It was more like, "if we're going to develop in .NET then we're going to develop in C#." Strings can be concatenated by using the '+' operator, rather than using functions. Edit: But I will say this: I do believe unicode was introduced into Delphi as elegantly as possible. Micrsoft did far nastier things to Borland. Assuming C++ and UI development of course. Delphi 10.4.1 comes with 333 projects in it’s Object Pascal demos directory. Long story short, when MS turned the full weight of their organization on Borland and sunk them it opened my eyes to MS's corporate behaviour. I had already tried different languages by that time. Those were probably some of the most enjoyable and productive times of my life. Plus, the early versions of the Delphi component model were insanely clear and well documented. There aren't very many consulting jobs for it. 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